So it is very much like a buddy system scenario. If you make friends within Discord of holders that have groups of voting power…you will most likely be approved regardless of your prop.
This is very true, you can see the Noun Square wallet, the Nouncil wallet, the Ugly DAO wallet and now the NoMo wallet all have same signers, all led by Toady Hawk. They just vote for themselves, no one else has a chance.
It is double standards, like from the other post:
Why is transparency needed: when a majority of new projects are scrutinised for asking for too much money to execute their project, double standards cannot be at play in the ecosystem. This is only fair to the community.
I am personally not against people being compensated, you giving in time and effort and should be compensated for sure. Web3 jobs are over paid since not many people are here to look into things and manage. But the same number of people over everything? For real everything under a same group of people is not okay at all
The same signers show up because of a proven track record, where everyone else involved trusts them as signers. Or were the founders who mentioned on the proposals who would manage the multisig. I can tell you we don’t make lone decisions on them either, in all cases, related team/community consensus is reached before any transactions are made.
In regards to numbers, it seems like you know the wallets to look at now. I don’t actually know personally tbh. I spend more time working on nounish stuff than counting how much I’ve made. I’ve spent almost every day this year doing nounish things, 16+ hour days for most of it.
@Benbodhi you run to defend your Ugly friends in discourse now, but even after all this attention you do not disclose that you are Ugly leader, you are the main wallet signer with Toady. Meanwhile, @ripe does disclose in his vote.
Maybe Ugly is not all ugly, but the do have ugly leaders who are not interested in being honest with the community.
I’m not running to defend anyone. I’m simply responding to all this conversation I had to read through after being afk for a while. Would appreciate keeping the conversation in one place since you’re already wasting so much time. No need for the duplicate word for word replies across platforms.
Responding to the Topic in this thread How much Nouns $$$ have you been funded with?:
I haven’t received any funding from NounsDAO or subDAOs for a Prop. I just submitted my first prop to the Discourse, and on Prop Lot.
I’m going to respond to two of your comments in another thread because I think they both help me address my Prop!
I agree that funding should be transparent. On an aside, I feel that as the Nouns ecosystem rapidly expands it has become a little confusing, even for someone who’s been Nouning around for many months (to be expounded upon in another post, perhaps). What I’m going to hone in on here, however, is the do good with no expectations thing. As someone (also with no grants, no Noun, but a few well-chosen derivatives and > 1 pair of Nouns Glasses) I can say that I understand 4156’s do good slogan, since that’s the best spirit in which to undertake a project where remuneration is not certain. The alternative, do good and expect payment would cause unnecessary grief. His statement was a diplomatic one. As a creative person, I get it. It’s prep for possibly being rejected. I recently experienced this, for example, having applied to two NFT art marketplaces. One promised to follow up with me in a week, and never did; the other sent me a timely letter of rejection. You might think: how’s money involved in this? Well, I was in a hurry to put original art up in the market (call that market A) where I’m known most as a collector. The longer I don’t submit art there, the longer I am being held back from many potential customers. That’s money. My point is that I am upset with the marketplace that never got back to me (A) despite the promise to, because I was told to expect something that never happened. Versus to the other market which made no promise but respectfully informed me of my non-inclusion, adding that I am free to reapply. I wouldn’t be upset with the negligent marketplace (A) had they made no promise (I simply would have done good without expectation). Now I’ll be hesitant to refer artists to them. This may seem like polishing the stem on an apple, but I think it is very important to keep an eye on first principles as the Nouniverse gets exponentially larger and more complex. Having fun and doing something in a light-spirited, fun way, is the essence of Nouns to me. That holds true regardless of someone’s wealth. Many optimistically-minded people of far less wealth than any Noun holder have been saying slogans along the same lines as 4156 for decades. Let’s not watch first principles crumble.
We know how much $ each person has been granted via etherscan.
We can also see down to how much they asked for vs what they actually received due to market fluctuations… that is how well we can see.
We can certainly ask: did those dollars go to proper use?
How well did the proliferation function do?
Did the project set things in motion so that down the road over X amount of time, my neighbors children, who are into tech and science and characters may one day discover nouns, and that doing so will instill a sense of discovery?
We can ask these questions here, before funding occurs, and use our best efforts to make such a call before the vote is cast.
So I think nouns is as perfect a protocol as can be as to the unknown experience in each category of life in relation to the proposals.
If the proposal is of “marketing”, does what is being proposed really have a shot at achieving XYZ in relation to the amount from the treasury requested?
If the proposal is make nouns the next hello kitty, does the person or team have experience building such, or come from a background where it is as clear as can be this may indeed be an end result in relation to the requested funds?
Is the proposal a request for funds to create stickers to place all over NYC in Obey / Shepard Farley fashion? Are there legal considerations?
Thanks for your time.